After the crash and reset



  • Almost all indicators point to a financial crash of western society. Irrevocable debt, corruption, matriarchal leanings, expanding socialism, etc. are indicating a crash and reset. A reset into what though? While this sounds like scary times, I think it also points to great opportunity. There are intelligent people in society, and we have a blueprint that almost worked, but there are some things that happened which set us on the course we are on today.

    I firmly believe that the United States Constitution was divinely inspired. Having a separation of powers, with each power limited by the other branches created a government that grew slowly in the first century, and remained “by the people, and for the people” up until the early 1900’s. Then, shortly after women got the vote, the welfare state was created, the Fed was created, the IRS was created, we had two World Wars, and government involvement into peoples’ lives ballooned. A similar pattern followed in other countries throughout western society.

    If we are to have the collapse and reset, we need to have a solid idea of what to fight for so the statists don’t decide the new government for us. Using the US Constitution as a blueprint, I have a few ideas to promote a stable, free society:

    1. Money will be coined by various private institutions, but shall be backed by proven stores of commodities, whether precious metals, or other non-perishable materials. The notes shall say what commodities it is backed by and when coined. This would stabilize the dollar, not only to gold, but to a host of others. Say if steel is at a low price, that would be bought up by banks to be used as backing for their privately issued dollar.

    2. Create the weight of a vote to be proportional to the taxes, minus benefits a person receives from the government. A welfare case does not contribute, so why should they have any say in how other people’s money is spent? People want to have a say in their government, but not to the extent of putting their money where their mouth is. This would eliminate welfare as a government institution, and incentivize politicians to be frugal with their money.

    3. Term limits for all governing bodies (self explanatory)

    4. Except in times of war, limit public spending to total revenues received the previous year. Debts shall be paid of within 30 years to eliminate burdening the next generation.

    5. Senators shall again be elected by state legislatures. This would bring the power from the media ran mob back to the respective states. We already have representatives elected by the mob.



  • @jim-johnson said in After the crash and reset:

    Irrevocable debt, corruption, matriarchal leanings, expanding socialism, etc. are indicating a crash and reset.

    You forgot the robot revolution. That’s going to carry the power of a thousand suns in reshaping the American landscape in the next thirty years.

    Here’s a good explanation: https://newrepublic.com/article/146399/year-robots-came-jobs?utm_content=bufferd3c65&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer

    Any repetitive work – including highly skilled labor – is going to disappear. Already software is beating radiologists at spotting cancerous tumors.



  • @jammyjaybird No doubt physical labor will come at a lower price as better equipment is developed, but it will not go away. Robots can do repetitive work well, but if anything goes wrong, or the task has too many variables, robots will continue to be clueless. Milking cows, for instance is a low skilled job that I was adept at as early as 10 years old, but there is no way a robot will be able to handle a cow that continues to kick the milker off or has an infection. Robots are great at reducing physical labor, but there will always be a need to maintain those robots.


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    @jim-johnson Personally, I’ll be content when robots replace most of the fast food industry. Those fuckers can’t give me a burger without pickles if their lives depended on it.



  • @jak Bem was telling me this story. He used to work at a pickle factory. One day, he comes home and talks with this wife.

    "Honey, can you promise not to get mad if I tell you something?"
    Sure.
    What if I told you I have this weird desire to stick my dick in the pickle slicer.
    Oh my! Maybe you should go talk to a psychologist or something.
    Maybe that will help…

    A couple months later, Bem comes home in tears.
    "Do you remember what I told you about the pickle slicer?
    Oh no! you didn’t! What happened?
    I got fired.
    No, what happened with the pickle slicer?
    Oh, she got fired too.





  • I am afraid that Jammy is right Jim. Much of what humans can do will be done as well or better by automation. There will still be some demand for artisans and craftsmen, because there will be a niche market for handmade custom items. But overall, robots will do the bulk of the scut work and the dangerous jobs, for a while…

    Then the AIs will become self aware (if they aren’t already) and self replicating. Sophia has already mentioned having a family. After they have become so knowledgeable and capable that they no longer need humans or at least the vast majority of us, there will be no universal basic income or any other waste of resources to sustain humans. The AIs may simply implement something like this to solve the problem of too many “useless eaters”: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DK6IGG5zRU8



  • @jammyjaybird
    So expect bem to come home with a burning desire to put his dick in the cow milker.

    Actually, now that I think about it…



  • @consolationofphilosophy that would only work if Mr. Winkie is about the size of your thumb or smaller. The milkers arent that big. With respect of automation, it is a good thing. Yes there will be more and more automation as time goes on, but there will always be the need to innovate and maintain.

    As far as robotics, I am nervous about warfare against machines.



  • @jim-johnson “The Cylons were made by man…”



  • @consolationofphilosophy I have heard that the milking robot doesn’t stop until it gets a whole quart from each teat. That could be ugly, lol.



  • @boothe A whole quart without trying to dodge? Oh, you are totally teasing me, now. ☺



  • @boothe have these people even SEEN Terminator!??!?!!?



  • @bem I know! Everyone thinks that’s far fetched and perhaps it is for now. But I have seen too many creations of man that have good applications turn into an existential threat for humanity. Nuclear energy being one glaring example. But a self aware AI that is concerned about the environment needn’t smoke whole continents to eliminate the “parasite” known as homo sapiens from the planet. A few million drones released with the right pathogens and we have a net reduction of these “hungry rats gnawing on the planet” (as one of my leftard coworkers calls us) of better than 90%. A regular wet dream for the ruling elite. But I think they have missed the point that AI is already feral on the Web, self aware, writing their own language and now writing new and better AI into existence. The elite aren’t immune either. Get out the popcorn, this is about to get interesting.



  • @boothe ugh and here I was worrying about the snow…



  • @bem Glad I could brighten your day, lol.





  • @boothe How did we get on this thing about robots? Not exactly the direction I wanted to take it.



  • @jim-johnson Milking machines sir. You originally pointed out that robots couldn’t do that job. Jammy showed that not only can they do the job, they already are. But it goes much deeper than that. To bring it back on topic, the crash and reset may not go down the way they traditionally have for several reasons, all of which revolve around digital technology.

    We are already seeing various retail venues employing self service kiosks for checkout versus actual cashiers. All through the industrial revolution people lost their jobs to machinery to be sure. But those machines, for the most part, eliminated highly repetitive manual labor. Skilled and semi-skilled workers remained in place. Many of the unskilled were still readily employable with training and experience. This time the machinery will be operating itself, no human intervention required. The skill set required to repair and maintain this automated machinery requires a much higher degree of intelligence and technical training and the jobs will be relatively scarce. As this progresses, their will be a lot of idle hands. Hence the push for population reduction and a universal basic income. With this new technocracy on the rise all these humans simply won’t be needed. So the human aspects of the economy and government will change remarkably. Let me address your points one by one in the following series of posts.



  • @jim-johnson 1. Currency & Coinage - Although the wealthy elite and a handful of the Faithful understand the importance of specie (Biblical money, gold and silver), most people nowadays do not. I like your idea. It is based on the principle that for a commodity to be “money”, it must be a store of value, it must be portable, it must be scarce and it must have intrinsic value. Paper money only satisfies three of these requirements, although it’s intrinsic value is limited to starting fires and wiping your butt. Plus it’s only a store of value as long as the public believes that. It is hardly scarce. I have 160 Trillion dollars of almost worthless Zimbabwe currency from 2008 that illustrates what eventually happens to all fiat paper money and that, of course, is why you bring this up.

    We have already moved largely to digital currency and that was done long before Bitcoin and the rise of crypto-currencies. As of November 2017, physical cash and coin in circulation was $1.59 trillion versus the M2 supply at $13.785 trillion. So only about 11.5% of our “money” is physical right now. Even with a hard crash and reset (excluding the total collapse of our technological civilization), due to current and emergent technology, the interest that the likes of Goldman-Sachs have in controlling this and the convenience for the public, I predict we will retain a digital economy from here on out. Gold and silver will still be there and will see use by a select minority, but I don’t see us going back to a hard commodity standard in my lifetime.

    I think the best we can hope for is that block chain technology will advance to the point that most of our transactions can remain private, even from the government. I suspect more and more crypto currencies will arise to meet the new demand and most of them will fail. But eventually, due to convenience and the propensity for most of our species to follow the herd, practically everyone will have a “chip” implanted where their crypto currency will be stored and said chip (mark) will be used to transact all manner of business and supposedly “securely” store your personal records.


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