Global warming



  • @boothe Yeah. Coal and oil receive subsidies as well though, such as immunity from prosecution due to the destruction they can cause. I’ve heard the Pennsylvania has some really devastated areas, lifeless deserts even.

    Regarding energy storage, check this out:

    https://foresternetwork.com/weekly/distributed-energy-weekly/grid-storage/stacking-blocks/

    Basically it a a robot crane that stores energy by stacking cement blocks and then releasing it by lowering them again. Still in its infancy but it sure sounds better than getting all those battery chemicals.

    I sure hope it goes somewhere!



  • @ransom Nuclear is the way to go



  • @iattacku Japan would like to have a word with you.



  • @bem if im not mistaken that reactor was outdated and accidents happen



  • @iattacku said in Global warming:

    @bem if im not mistaken that reactor was outdated and accidents happen

    That’s correct. I have some professional knowledge of these matters and in the nuclear world accidents absolutely should not happen, especially when they are easily preventable (and were even 50 years ago). As usual, whether it be wars, politics or big business it always comes back to making or saving money. Those first generation General Electric nuclear units had a serious design flaw that should have prevented them ever being built: https://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/fukushima-mark-nuclear-reactor-design-caused-ge-scientist/story?id=13141287

    The Japanese government knew about the danger of Tsunamis and there are stones dotting the coastline in warning from the late 19th century. Yet they didn’t build the seawall high enough to protect the power plant (money, money, money, ah tells ya!): https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/century-old-warnings-against-tsunamis-dot-japans-coastline-180956448/

    Small Modular Reactors produce zero carbon emissions, significantly reduce the amount of nuclear waste produced, will be factory built and assembled onsite and in the case of the Generation IV designs are intrinsically safe: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generation_IV_reactor Obviously, since it will provide another means of safe, economical and abundant energy, we can be assured that the left will hate this and fight it every step of the way… Oh, and Rah-sha is already ahead of us in this game (with Hillary’s the Obama state department’s support!). See this: http://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/20564/heres-what-we-know-about-russias-new-floating-nuclear-power-plant-heading-to-the-arctic



  • @iattacku said in Global warming:

    @ransom Nuclear is the way to go

    Eh. How things work when they work well is not as important as how they work when they stop working.

    Sword of Damocles.



  • @ransom said in Global warming:

    Eh. How things work when they work well is not as important as how they work when they stop working.

    Sword of Damocles.

    That’s the beauty of the new reactor designs. When ancillary equipment fails, they are engineered to simply shut down without external intervention. In fact, if management at Three Mile Island hadn’t done everything they could to keep the plant on line (megawatts = megabucks) it would have shut itself down too. It would have been an incident rather than an accident. But even after their I&C techs warned them that the core temperatures were out the roof they tried to keep running anyway. It wasn’t equipment failure (at least not at first) that caused the accident, it was “human error”. That’s a nice way of saying they tried to keep the plant on-line as long as possible even when they knew there was problem, which takes us back to the money thing…



  • @ransom thats what technological advancement is for. But there is too much fear mongering so advances have been slow



  • THOUGHT OF THE DAY

    This planet is 4.6 billion years old. If we scale that down to 46 years, our species has been here for 4 hours. The Industrial Revolution began 1 minute ago, and in that time we’ve destroyed more than half of the world’s rainforests.

    Conclusion: Our modern way of life is NOT sustainable.



  • @jammyjaybird go live in the woods then Jammy



  • @jammyjaybird

    The Industrial Revolution began 1 minute ago, and in that time we’ve destroyed more than half of the world’s rainforests.

    A throng of the very people who slashed and burned the rain forests in South and Central America, thereby destroying the water shed and allowing the fertile top soil to head straight for the ocean for “farming” are on their way here right now. But you apparently approve of that migration of illegals for some demented political reason. Here’s a clue.

    You are a member of the IYI tribe it seems. Per Nassim Taleb: Intellectual Yet Idiot: semi-erudite bureaucrat who thinks he is an erudite; pathologizes others for doing things he doesn’t understand not realizing it is his understanding that may be limited; imparts normative ideas to others: thinks people should act according to their best interests and he knows their interests, particularly if they are uneducated “red necks” or English non-crisp-vowel class.”

    The climate is cyclic. The sun is cyclic. Your life is cyclic. @jammyjaybird, you have no comprehension of ergodicity. You apparently believe that everything can be forced to “progress” in a way that seems “intelligent” to you. This cannot be now nor could it ever have been. Things here on planet earth wax and wane, they ebb and flow. Man really has little to do with it.

    Jammy arrogates himself while impugning the entire human race studiously ignoring the millions of extinctions and cataclysmic “climatic” events that the fossil record shows all predated man by millennia. If I were going to place a bet on who would win the struggle of Nature versus Homo Sapiens I will take Nature every time. Nature has eradicated a whole bunch of far bigger and nastier creatures than man down through the ages.

    And, of course, Nature has a pretty stellar body count when it comes to humans as well. As I have pointed out to various other left-tards, tree-huggers and misanthropes over the years: If you are so concerned about the negative effects of human occupation of Earth then do us all a favor; set a positive example. Leave the planet immediately. We’ll compost what you leave behind. XD



  • Thank you for your long and monotonous straw man response.

    Yes, there have been 5 great extinctions throughout earth’s history. We could be heading for a sixth. I’ve read a couple of fascinating books about it.
    Yes, the earth’s history is cyclical.
    Yes, Mother Nature is a serial killer.

    But none of that is related to my point, which stands: Our destruction of our environment is not sustainable.
    Whether the earth is cyclically changing at this moment or not is irrelevant.
    I’m talking about man’s contribution to environmental degradation. Got it?

    Review this one more time: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man





  • @jammyjaybird

    THE GREAT FUEL SWITCH: COMING BY 2035

    Well, well. The Jamster’s back to releasing his inner Marxist again. Extreme left and mixed factual reporting Think Progress? Really? And you, a Louise Mensch acolyte would hector me over citing the Gateway Pundit? XD

    Let’s put it this way, with the upcoming grand solar minimum, you’re going to be very glad you have energy dense fuels such as coal and oil still available to you around 2030 and beyond. Peak oil has long been debunked, which is not to say that demand for oil and coal couldn’t drop as new technology becomes available: https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidblackmon/2017/09/27/its-been-a-tough-week-for-peak-oil-theorists/#2a557efa5e05 I suspect that the Gen IV small modular reactors will take a foothold since they are zero carbon emitters. But that’s hardly a panacea for an energy hungry developing world. Third worlders look at the United States and want what we have (hence the assault on our southern border). Those who are industrious enough to build their own countries up (See this: https://www.chinadialogue.net/blog/10761-China-is-building-coal-power-again/en), rather than abandon them, will use coal and oil to do so. What we have here in the U.S. is built on readily available and affordable sources of energy, of which coal and petroleum make up the lions share still to this day. That’s not going to significantly change in the next couple of decades. These dire predictions of fossil fuels’ demise are coming from the same leftists that predicted a Hildebeast landslide two years ago.



  • OCEAN ACIDIFICATION IS DISSOLVING THE SEAFLOOR

    https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/d3qaek/the-seafloor-is-dissolving-because-climate-change?utm_source=vicetwitterus

    “Our study confirms that humans are now a geological force capable of impacting the Earth’s system, like a super-volcano or a meteoritic impact,” Olivier Sulpis, an earth science researcher at McGill University and lead author on the study, said…



  • @jammyjaybird

    “Our study confirms that humans are now a geological force capable of impacting the Earth’s system, like a super-volcano or a meteoritic impact,”

    Right from the article that our own Chicken Little Jamster cited: “The last time the oceans were as acidic as they are now, 96 percent of ocean life was extinct.” Now when was that? Oh yes! That would have been the Permian–Triassic extinction event which occurred (according to the current crop of high priests of scientism) roughly 252 million years ago. It must have been all those Trilobites tooling around uncaringly in their SUVs. Or perhaps the Ammonites jet-setting all over the globe all the finest restaurants and resorts. Or the Bivalves burning all that coal in their power plants and the Gastropods running those oil refineries, huh? See, it killed nearly all of them! The sky is falling! The sky is falling! Run for your lives! (/sarc) LMAO! Even if we are headed into a Permian - Triassic style extinction event and (for the sake of humoring the Jamster and his fellow alarmists) it is anthropogenic in nature, there isn’t a single thing we can do about it. Anymore than we can control the solar cycles or even the comparatively “small” event (from a global standpoint) that an eruption of the Yellowstone caldera would amount to. But ocean acidification has already been debunked, so it’s a non-issue…as usual: https://wattsupwiththat.com/2018/06/13/the-total-myth-of-ocean-acidification-part-deux-the-scientific-basis/



  • @boothe said in Global warming:

    But ocean acidification has already been debunked, so it’s a non-issue

    https://www.noaa.gov/resource-collections/ocean-acidification

    Estimates of future carbon dioxide levels, based on business as usual emission scenarios, indicate that by the end of this century the surface waters of the ocean could be nearly 150% more acidic, resulting in a pH that the oceans haven’t experienced for more than 20 million years.

    Boothe, this is why I mock you. To you, the only problems in the world are lack of guns and leftists. Everything else can be shrugged off with meh, nature’s gonna happen, humans are powerless and victimized little.

    No, our impact is changing the earth’s environment. To what degree we are changing the earth’s environment is the only question.

    Because you are very predictable, let me save you the trouble of your old-man climate-denier response, which is dismissal of my source. Yes, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration is a part of the Dept of Commerce, which is part of your much-hated U.S. federal government. So lets just skip ahead to the next step: Do you have evidence that the NOAA puts out false data? Please present it.



  • @boothe said in Global warming:

    Right from the article that our own Chicken Little Jamster cited: “The last time the oceans were as acidic as they are now, 96 percent of ocean life was extinct.” Now when was that? Oh yes! That would have been the Permian–Triassic extinction event which occurred (according to the current crop of high priests of scientism) roughly 252 million years ago. It must have been all those Trilobites tooling around uncaringly in their SUVs. Or perhaps the Ammonites jet-setting all over the globe all the finest restaurants and resorts. Or the Bivalves burning all that coal in their power plants and the Gastropods running those oil refineries, huh? See, it killed nearly all of them! The sky is falling! The sky is falling! Run for your lives!

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man



  • Yeah, another “straw man” cite. Translation, the Jamster has no valid argument, so he attempts to discredit and redirect. Yawn. NOAA manipulates data to fit the agenda, plain and simple: https://realclimatescience.com/2016/12/100-of-us-warming-is-due-to-noaa-data-tampering/



  • NOAA has been caught changing data enough times to raise a reasonable doubt with anyone other than a true believer. Make no mistake, funding, manpower and prestige dictate what gets studied and who gets published more than pure scientific investigation and evidence ever will. Scientism is a highly political religion driven primarily by a wealth redistribution engine. Socialists in the 1960s figured out that the American public wasn’t buying their brand of snake oil and turned to environmentalism to sway public opinion toward collectivism. It worked, at least with some of the more easily duped public. So those of us who dare question the so-called facts and motivation (think Al Gore making billions from trading carbon credits here) are labeled “deniers” in an effort to tie us to Holocaust denial. Here’s another article from four years ago documenting NOAA data manipulation: https://www.naturalnews.com/045808_global_warming_fraud_data_manipulation_NOAA.html#


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