2nd Amendment Discussion



  • @jammyjaybird said in 2nd Amendment Discussion:

    KROGER BANS OPEN CARRY

    Since I don’t shop at Kroger this doesn’t affect me. But…if I did, just like Walmart, I would simply conceal & carry. I’ve been giving this a lot of thought to be honest. I have a very nice Kimber 1911 that I like to carry in a Bianchi cross draw holster, with matching belt and double magazine pouch. It’s quite comfortable and I’ve trained with it, so I am very confident wearing it when I’m dressed nicely. It’s kind of a semi-formal rig. Plus I can deploy quickly with it which is especially important if I were to be confronted with a an armed criminal or more specifically a mass shooter. But Walmart and Kroger want to slow me down if the SHTF, rather than offend the delicate sensibilities of their snowflake customers.

    And @jammyjaybird did make a valid point about the police not being sure who the bad guy is if the the shit gets real. There’s also the factor (although I consider it over hyped) that a criminal may see the weapon and target me first. So, what to do? Well…I’m already a big fan of Galco gun leather. In fact I have a nice Galco belt slide that I “open carry” my S&W Shield in. It occurred to me that the Galco Miami Classic shoulder rig is…well…cool as it comes. Remember Sonny Crockett (played by Don Johnson) in Miami Vice? That was the rig he used.

    Sure it’s a bit slower to draw than my Bianchi holster and you have to keep your jacket on, but the cool factor alone is worth it. Plus if you do have to take a dump in a public restroom, you don’t have to remove your weapon from your belt first. Plus it’s much easier to deploy your weapon from if you’re sitting in a car, restaurant, office, etc. The rig is easy to put on and take off. You still have two extra magazines (8 round if they’re Kimber) and did I mention the cool factor?

    Of course I could carry my Para-Ordnance P12 .45 which has 12 round capacity (13 with one in the pipe). Craft Holsters offers a very nice knock-off of the Galco rig specifically for this weapon. With the dual mag pouch, that gives me a total of 37 rounds. That’s more than enough to pin down a mass shooter or engage multiple assailants.

    So really, this “snow-flaking” by the usual suspects is a good thing. It has inspired me to explore new options for carrying concealed. And I am up to the challenge, even if I do have to wear a sport coat with my T-shirt… *]



  • CVS, WALGREENS, AND WEGMAN’S BAN OPEN CARRY

    https://time.com/5670440/cvs-walgreens-open-carry-changes/



  • @jammyjaybird

    CVS, WALGREENS, AND WEGMAN’S BAN OPEN CARRY

    Actually, no. Once again our hyperventilating Marxist is, how can I put this politely, “dissembling”. What the Time article he cites really says is:

    “Drug chains CVS and Walgreens as well as grocery chain Wegmans Food Market have joined the chorus of retailers requesting that customers refrain from openly carrying firearms in their stores even where state laws allow it.”

    They, like Walmart, are requesting that we no longer carry openly. There will be just as many guns there, but delicate snowflakes like our boy Jammy won’t be able to see them so everything will be better, right? Well actually there probably won’t be as many guns because a lot of us will take our business elsewhere. Of course as I pointed out above, if a mass shooting starts (or just some dispute amongst hot heads goes bad) in my presence I won’t be able to deploy my weapon as quickly. But that’s okay, because the likes of Jammy will feeeeeel safer if they can’t see my handgun. So be it. I will honor the wishes of these virtue signalling corporate executives and not carry openly if I have to patronize their stores. But be well assured, I will still be armed.



  • So we have the usual suspects clamoring for another “assault weapons ban”. So how’s that going to work? As the Charlie Hebdo massacre and subsequent attacks on highly gun restrictive France with weapons purchased in highly gun restrictive Belgium have proven, not worth a tinker’s dam! So what would “Red Flag” laws, background checks, an “assault weapons ban”, ad nauseam, have done to prevent the Odessa, Texas shooting? Not a thing! The wacko had called the FBI and police numerous times himself leaving “incoherent” messages. He was prohibited from buying or possessing firearms under federal law. He failed a background check. So where did he get his gun? It appears that it was illegally manufactured, just like ambitious entrepreneurs do down in highly gun restrictive Australia and was transferred to him illegally. So much for “reasonable gun safety laws”. Where there’s a will there’s a way:

    Law-enforcement officials said they have identified a person of interest they suspect of illegally manufacturing and selling the rifle used in Saturday’s mass shooting in West Texas.



  • Gun shows may soon be a thing of the past along with buying and selling guns amongst ourselves. Moscow Mitch McConnell says that expanded background check (i.e. backdoor gun owner registration) and “red flag” (i.e. Swatting made easy) legislation “will be front and center” during this legislative session.

    “Those are two items that for sure will be front and center as we see what we can come together on and pass” the Republican leader said on a Kentucky radio station, speaking about a bipartisan bill from Sens. Joe Manchin, D-Va., and Pat Toomey, R-Pa., which would expand background checks to cover online and gun show sales, and the so-called red flag law, legislation that allows courts and police to confiscate firearms from people who are believed to be a threat to themselves or others.

    What NBC news really means is that it will be illegal for private citizens to sell a privately held firearm advertised on http://www.armslist.com/, http://www.mwguntrader.com/ or the like or at a gun show without going through a federally licensed firearms dealer. The dealer will have to perform an NICS background check and record the transaction just as if you were buying the gun from him. Dealers will undoubtedly charge a fee for this “service” (helping the gun-vermin build a database of guns and their owners). There’s a distinct possibility that if such a bill makes it to his desk the Bad Orange Man will sign it into law. He’s already had the BATFE declare a piece of plastic to be a machine gun. He’s not as pro Second Amendment as he led everyone to believe.

    So, if James Wesley Rawles over at Survival Blog is correct, we have about 210 days left before the gun-vermin make a frontal assault on our rights one more time. Rawles’ take is to get out there NOW and buy up any guns you need to fill the gaps in your collection. Once a compromise measure between the House and Senate passes, he expects to see pre-1899 firearms prices sky-rocket along with 80% receivers, magazines with greater than 10 round capacity and other gun parts.

    I hope Rawles is wrong. I hope his predictive abilities are just as good as @jammyjaybird’s. But if he isn’t and you have some firearms you’d like to procure “off paper”, then you’d better read this: https://survivalblog.com/210-days-freedom-coming-private-firearms-sales-frenzy/



  • Are you planning on buying a gun? If you are a first time buyer, then the process may seem daunting to you. Because contrary to what the unhinged left would have you believe there are already plenty of “reasonable gun safety laws” (i.e. infringements of our rights) on the books attempting to prevent firearms from falling into the wrong hands. Don’t let that discourage you…unless you’re a prohibited person. The process when buying through a dealer is relatively quick and painless in most states. Here’s part one of a good primer on the subject: http://www.outdoorhub.com/how-to/2016/02/22/buying-and-selling-a-firearm-what-is-an-ffl/



  • The second installment in the Outdoor Hub series covers private sales of firearms: http://www.outdoorhub.com/stories/2016/03/09/buying-selling-firearm-private-sales-explained/



  • Now here’s some leftist / feminist logic regarding guns that I can really get behind and support:

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    It would be a good start!



  • The next time @jammyjaybird and his fellow travelers tell you that firearms confiscation arguments are a slippery slope logical fallacy…

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    Of course this Spanglish speaking jack-ass will never be president, but he shares that sentiment with the rest of the Democ-Rat thugs. Thanks for showing your camp’s true colors Robert Francis! Yeah, this Robert Francis “Beta” O’Rourke: https://www.politifact.com/texas/statements/2018/aug/22/silvestre-reyes/beto-orourke-arrested-1990s-burglary-and-dwi/



  • It seems “Beta” O’Rourke is trying to beat the Obombyanist at his own game: Best gun salesman ever! An Arizona gun store offered a Beto special on AR-15s and sold out in four hours. Check this out: https://www.theepochtimes.com/gun-store-sells-out-beto-special-ar-15s-in-4-hours-after-orourkes-hell-yes-remarks_3083594.html



  • COLT IS ENDING PRODUCTION OF THE AR-15

    https://americanmilitarynews.com/2019/09/colt-is-ending-production-of-ar-15s/

    Why?
    “Lack of public demand.”

    From the piece: .…the company simply isn’t selling enough of the rifles in the civilian marketplace to continue devoting the resources into it — a pattern that may be attributed to Colt rifles’ $1,000+ price tag and a market supplied with lower priced competitors.

    There are dozens of manufacturers of AR-15s.
    So the market is glutted.
    I jokingly predict tomorrow the NRA will demand a boycott of Colt.
    Because weapons sales are a MONEY TRAIN and the NRA ain’t slowin’ it down for nobody.



  • @jammyjaybird’s fellow travelers over at MSNBC decided to put up a poll asking: Do you think people should be allowed to carry guns in public? It seems to have backfired on them…

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    I took a screenshot just in case they decided to take the results down. As you can see, 93% of the respondents (over 800K the last time I checked) believe it to be their right under the 2A. Here’s the link: http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/poll-do-you-think-people-should-be-allowed-carry-guns-public



  • @jammyjaybird said in 2nd Amendment Discussion:

    COLT IS ENDING PRODUCTION OF THE AR-15
    Why?
    “Lack of public demand.”

    There’s no lack of public demand for AR-15s. Colt’s are expensive and there are higher quality AR-15 rifles and pistols available at a better price point. Colt simply can’t compete. Colt is an old company that has struggled to keep up with modern times. Civilian AR-15 production is a very low profit margin endeavor now. They started out as the only producer. Now they’re an also ran.

    From the piece: .…the company simply isn’t selling enough of the rifles in the civilian marketplace to continue devoting the resources into it — a pattern that may be attributed to Colt rifles’ $1,000+ price tag and a market supplied with lower priced competitors.

    This is true. If I am going to sink over a grand in an AR pattern gun, I will simply buy the parts and custom configure it myself from the lower receiver up. Virtually anyone with reasonable mechanical skills can do this.

    I jokingly predict tomorrow the NRA will demand a boycott of Colt.

    Yeah. That’s a joke for sure. There are a lot of Colt enthusiasts out there. This decision will improve Colt’s bottom line which will ensure their success with their 1911 and revolver markets.

    Because weapons sales are a MONEY TRAIN and the NRA ain’t slowin’ it down for nobody.

    No Rimshot, you’re wrong again. First of all the gun culture here in the United States creates a significant market. You know, that supply and demand thing… That’s the same reason illicit drug sales can’t be stopped. Legal prohibition creates a highly lucrative black market with obscene profit margins. Weapons and ammo sales are actually very low margin due to free market competition.

    Even though Dick’s sales numbers dropped when they quit selling weapons it didn’t affect their bottom line. They actually dumped a loss leader. The same for Walmart. They were able to virtue signal with no impact on net profit. It has been good for local gun shops though. @jammyjaybird, you need to stick with commentary on subjects you actually know something about. Your ignorance wouldn’t be quite so apparent. Here, educate yourself: https://frontier-justice.com/virtue-signaling-what-you-need-to-know/



  • @boothe said in 2nd Amendment Discussion:

    Because weapons sales are a MONEY TRAIN and the NRA ain’t slowin’ it down for nobody.

    No Rimshot, you’re wrong again. First of all the gun culture here in the United States creates a significant market. You know, that supply and demand thing… That’s the same reason illicit drug sales can’t be stopped. Legal prohibition creates a highly lucrative black market with obscene profit margins. Weapons and ammo sales are actually very low margin due to free market competition.

    To repeat, word for word:
    Because weapons sales are a MONEY TRAIN and the NRA ain’t slowin’ it down for nobody.
    Read it again, Boothe. Slowly, there you go.



  • @boothe said in 2nd Amendment Discussion:

    I took a screenshot just in case they decided to take the results down. As you can see, 93% of the respondents (over 800K the last time I checked) believe it to be their right under the 2A. Here’s the link: http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/poll-do-you-think-people-should-be-allowed-carry-guns-public

    Have you ever studied polling?
    Do you know that Internet polls are the most unreliable, worthless method of gauging public opinion?
    That’s one of those things we learn in statistics classes in college.
    Oh right, sorry – you didn’t go to college.
    lol jackass



  • @jammyjaybird at least he didn’t go to college to get stupid



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  • @jammyjaybird said in 2nd Amendment Discussion:

    @boothe said in 2nd Amendment Discussion:

    Because weapons sales are a MONEY TRAIN and the NRA ain’t slowin’ it down for nobody.

    No Rimshot, you’re wrong again. First of all the gun culture here in the United States creates a significant market. You know, that supply and demand thing… That’s the same reason illicit drug sales can’t be stopped. Legal prohibition creates a highly lucrative black market with obscene profit margins. Weapons and ammo sales are actually very low margin due to free market competition.

    To repeat, word for word:
    Because weapons sales are a MONEY TRAIN and the NRA ain’t slowin’ it down for nobody.
    Read it again, Boothe. Slowly, there you go.

    I’m going to explain this to you one more time: Guns and ammunition sales are LOW margin. As is typical of a Marxist, you have no comprehension of economics. As I pointed out above, there’s quite a bit of cash flow, but not too much profit in gun sales. At least not at the civilian level here in the United States. International arms sales are a totally different matter. You seem unable to distinguish between the two. Your failure to actually understand basic economics is probably why you seem to believe Socialism will work.

    I held a federal firearms license many years ago. In most cases, due to fierce competition, the best I could do on new gun sales was 10% profit. I did a little better on used gun sales, accessories and repair work. But you had to do the paperwork, run the NICS background checks and keep meticulous records. When you deduct your expenses, if you aren’t doing serious volume, you don’t make enough to stay in business. It was time intensive with little to show for it. Compare that to jewelry work where I could always make 100% profit and often as much as 400 and even 500%. So I quit messing with selling guns and focused on jewelry. Duh.

    The other fallacy you and your fellow travelers suffer from is believing that the NRA is owned and operated by the gun manufacturers. The NRA is composed of Liberty minded individuals, like myself, who spend our time, effort and money stopping authoritarians like you from implementing policies that violate our Creator endowed right to self defense. You’re confusing the National Shooting Sports Foundation with the NRA. That’s the business side of the house. Get your facts straight.



  • @boothe said in 2nd Amendment Discussion:

    The other fallacy you and your fellow travelers suffer from is believing that the NRA is owned and operated by the gun manufacturers.

    I never said that.
    But the NRA has a vested interest in keeping gun manufacturers as financially fat as possible.
    It’s a money train.
    Whether a long one or a short one, it’s a money train.



  • @jammyjaybird said in 2nd Amendment Discussion:

    @boothe said in 2nd Amendment Discussion:

    The other fallacy you and your fellow travelers suffer from is believing that the NRA is owned and operated by the gun manufacturers.

    I never said that.

    You’ve clearly alluded to it along with your fellow leftists, many of whom have come right out and said it or words to that effect. The idea that I and others like me, would send the NRA and GOA money year after year, write letters to our representatives and counter you authoritarians at every turn is apparently alien to you. I doubt seriously that you support anti-gun organizations with your wallet. As a leftist, the concept of being generous with your own money is beyond your comprehension I am sure. That’s why the anti-gun left wing movers and shakers have to rely on contributions from billionaires like György Schwartz and Michael Bloomberg for their campaigns. They don’t have sufficient grass roots support like the NRA does. So instead of mobilizing their members these leftist social engineering organizations have to rely on money. The NRA is “We the people”. Everytown, Brady, etc. are “astro turf”: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/24/us/politics/nra-gun-control-florida.html

    But the NRA has a vested interest in keeping gun manufacturers as financially fat as possible.
    It’s a money train.
    Whether a long one or a short one, it’s a money train.

    As a Patron member of the NRA, I can say with confidence that we do indeed have a vested interest in keeping the gun manufactures not only profitable, but innovative. The left wants to do everything they can to attack and destroy the firearms industry and the NRA so we the American gun owners can be marginalized, silenced and disarmed. It doesn’t take a leftwing “rocket surgeon” to figure that one out.

    Renewable energy is a “money train” too, which is primarily still alive due to tax subsidies. But that’s okay, because it’s a favored fetish of the political left. Can you imagine how Rimshot and his fellow travelers would react if the federal gun-vermin gave the gun companies tax credits and subsidies to arm the unorganized militia? The leftists have a conniption fit over individuals and private firearms related companies exercising their rights by supporting the NRA. The real problem for Jammy’s ilk is that we the gun owners vote. Not just at the ballot box, but with our wallets, our pens and our voices and we’re winning. That’s real “democracy” and they don’t like it one little bit because they’re not getting their way.

    They think they are so damned smart. They just know we’re totally wrong, so in this case political pressure and majority rule doesn’t agree with their delicate democ-rat political digestive systems. Folks, this current crop of Marxists (like @jammyjaybird) are so laughably pathetic I have no sympathy for them. Many of Jammy’s talking points come from ill-informed or uninformed politicians and political hacks who simply don’t like guns in civilian hands, just like the British government didn’t back in 1775. So it’s not just his stupid showing, he’s drawing on the power of stupid from many others, like this one: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/congresswoman-mocked-for-saying-ar-15-is-as-heavy-as-10-moving-boxes-fires-50-caliber-bullets.

    As far as NRA funding fallacies go, here’s a reality check for you Rimshot: https://www.factcheck.org/2013/01/do-assault-weapons-sales-pay-nra-salaries/


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